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In order to have conversations -- start by singing

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Coty Raven Morris conducts the combined Rose and Thorn Choirs singing an African piece called "Modimo" at the From the Dust concert performed at First Congregational Church in Portland in November, 2025.

Coty Raven Morris conducts the combined Rose and Thorn Choirs singing an African piece called "Modimo" at the From the Dust concert performed at First Congregational Church in Portland in November, 2025. Chad Lanning for Portland State University hide caption

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As a young child in New Orleans, Coty Raven Morris didn't make a distinction between learning music and learning anything else.

"The things that I learned about history, about my culture, about other people's cultures, I learned in song and play," she says.

"There were not specific music classes when I was in New Orleans," she says. "Everything was sung."

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"When people sing together, you can see them removing the mask of insecurity."

As an adult, she studied choral conducting and music theory, but she was still thinking about how to live through music, rather than relegate it to a sidebar of life. At one point she found herself at a workshop about equity, which she found "exhausting and boring," and "divorced from the people that it's talking about."

" It kind of seemed like 45 minutes of making people feel guilty," says Morris. "The room was made up of predominantly white people who showed up intentionally to learn. And I think guilt just paralyzes them from conversations."

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